Curse

schaapie · Mar 17, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Adam of Tyria

Whats on April 19th?

Read my boy read

Maybe a fun vanquish weekend or so. But no new god mode.

jackie · Mar 17, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Survival mode: if you log off, gold farming company gets your account.

Kyp Jade · Mar 17, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

The day they implemented observer mode

EternalTempest · Mar 17, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

I have to add Removal of the Attribute Refund System (Pre-Factions).

Abedeus · Mar 17, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

1. Removal of refund system.
2. Grind to move in storyline, blocked gates (Factions)
3. Grind to move in storyline, then grind to get to PuGs (pve-only titles that ,,help'' players). Heroes were fine, I like them.
4. Ursan.

Eldin · Mar 17, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Hard-Hard Mode will have a Coventina The Matron in each mob.

For those who don't remember, without good interruptage she takes 10+ minutes to outdamage. Painful!

Ravi · Mar 17, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

the fact that the game has heroes and titles it doesnt mean u NEED to have those, i still pug all the time, with whoever comes along.

i play since launch, and the game only has gotten better and better, most people dont like change be it for good or worse.

free_fall · Mar 17, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by bart

I think the day that changed GW is the day they introduced Heroes. For better or for worse it changed GW into a single player game (for me).

GW was always a single-player game for me, ever since Proph. It's one of the reasons I picked GW (aside from the no-monthly fee) over other MMORPGs - that you could play with henchmen instead of other people. Now, not that I didn't end up (and enjoy) playing with other people but I work graveyard so there wasn't always a lot of people on when I was, plus I enjoyed the challenge of completing the missions using just the hench. Heroes just made that part of it better, imo.

If there was one thing that I feel "changed" GW, and not neccessarily for the better perhaps, it would be the introduction of Titles.

OOshadeOO · Mar 17, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

mmmmmmmmmmmonster kill...i mean mode

dies like fish · Mar 17, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

November 8th, 2007

noneedforclevernames · Mar 17, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Yeah, they should have a celebration for the anniversity hard mode was invented.

Then have a day where all the rich players lose all their items for the anniversity of greens.

Crom The Pale · Mar 18, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50

There have been many days that "changed" GW forever...

Sorrows Furnace and Green Weapons!
Mini-pets!
Heros!
Hard Mode!
UW/FoW end chests!
Z-Chest!
The End of Favor in Hall of Hero's!
Every skill update!!!

Whats next?.........The day they anounce open beta testing for GW2!

Thorondor Port · Mar 18, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar

I would argue that the day Factions was introduced was the day the GW changed forever, but that is just me.

Agreed completely. It made getting to lvl 20 like 3 hours of playing, and quests didnt give skills anymore.

bhavv · Mar 18, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15

The day you get kicked from a HM alliance for saying WoW rules, GW sux.

Ah well, guess I can just play H/H all the time now minus the amusing idiots on alliance chat.

Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO cant I just have 7 heroes?

shru · Mar 18, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

I'm for Hell mode..

Hell mode is Hard Mode but if your character dies it's deleted forever.

They already have this it's called going for Legendary Survivor.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 18, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

lol prophecies was horrible, factions was a change for the best.

Anyway how did this thread get so far off topic? Did anyone bother to read the first post?

Eldin · Mar 18, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

Just imagine what the reaction would be if ANet suddenly announced:

"We are sorry for all the changes we have made. We will now refund every GW purchase exept prophecies and delete all campaigns that came out after it. All skills will be cut from the game, exept the originals and they will all be reset to the way they worked the day GW was released. Your titles will be erased since they only ruined the game.Green items no longer drop. Xunlai storage will only have one box again. Heroes? Forgive us for ever thinking of those. We have deleted them forever. Use of the word "Ursan" will result in your account being permanently banned. If anyone has a problem with our new policy, know that it is all for your own good. Trust us on this one, you are only a small minority. All of your friends love to see their favorite game restored."

I would LOVE this. In fact, I would love if the game was entirely rolled back to 2005.

ANet should have...

1) Screw multiple (AND STANDALONE?!) campaigns. Do expansions.

2) No stupid PvE skills. They are unique but Ursan was a nono.

3) Heroes are a mixed blessing as they killed PuGging (which was fun, it was half the thrill of the good old days) but they are ALRIGHT.

4) No IMBA skills or new classes or campaigns that rush you to level 20 - appealing to noobies was a big mistake. They should have left GW long and arduous like Prophecies - it had a nice learning curve that resulted in the players developing more experience and respect for the game than later campaigns. To everybody who says that Prophecies was "too slow lololol", you are not an MMORPG gamer. Go play an FPS. Slow learning curves and a sense of gradual character development are KEY to an MMORPG.

Anyway I wish we could just roll back the game to 2005 - and with it, all the new noobs and fags who came with the later campaigns would be gone. For a time GW was its own heaven, but new campaigns and a more noob-welcoming environment just allowed more idiots in, and, in the long run, it ruined the game.

To all who are saying "stop QQing lulz its not a big deal", I betcha you guys either did not own Prophecies as your first campaign or did not join the scene until later. Although there's no real way to show you, the game was once magnificent (well, it's still a great game now but it was even more magnificent) back in the year we called 2005. Then it broke. I do not hate all new players, mind you - in fact, I wish you were all around back when things were truly blissful.

bhavv · Mar 18, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Actually the new campaigns would have been fine if Anet didnt add any new skills. HM would have been fine if they adjusted AI and Henchmen skills accordingly rather then just
Increasing levels and attack speeds, and heroes would be fine if we could use 7

But Anet just mess up PVE when they try to change it or balance skills for PVP. Other MMOs get PVE right before PVP, thats why I personally prefer them.

Oh and /AGREE with everything that eldin just said.

StormDragonZ · Mar 18, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Just for the record, I started playing Guild Wars on Christmas Day of 2005. Prophecies will always be my favorite campaign.

Konig Des Todes · Mar 18, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by Eldin

I think the moment ANet came up with Factions and a multi-campaign idea is when GW was forever broken. Everything was at its best back in the Prophecies days: whilst Factions and NF provided some positive new changes to GW, it mostly just broke the game.

ANet should have remained with Tyria and added expansions/big patches like Sorrow's Furnace.

It'll probably be some drop rate increase in HM - let's break the economy even more! WOO!

This is probably the 1st time GW got wrecked. The only thing I say that Factions did was introduce the assassin *don't hate me cuz I like sins plz! >.<*, ritualist, and Shiro, what could of, and arguably is, the best bad guy in GW1. Not to mention the proph arenas were mostly removed when factions came out as well, I am only glad Tombs got changed but the others....could have stayed...

I say Factions*hurt it and in some ways helped*, NF*helped with heroes*, and HM*opinion, I say help, more titles and more challenge for us PvE only people

* all changed Guild Wars. Seeing the outcome now, I would of just made Factions and NightFall expansions as well, maybe just add the new professions to pre-ascalon, increase the lvl cap by 10 each game *including EN*, and remove the continent of Cantha from gameplay, just simply expand on Tyria/Elona and areas around them.

Its not so much I dislike multi-campaign, its more that I dislike the starting new characters in completely new lands*does give an original feel to a new character though* but not being able to make the profession you want in any campaign, and of course no sin/rit/derv/para armor in proph and no derv/para armor in cantha...that annoys me the most...

I would like to see some sort of special weekend besides double loot or whatever, but maybe not "Legendary Mode" or whatever you want to call it, many people, myself included, have yet to get through HM. But including it would not be a bad thing, keeps us PvE only people busy since most of the economy is falling and PvPers don't gotta worry about that. I notice alot of complaining about loot scaling...so...as a gift for the anniversery of HM...REMOVE LOOT SCALING!

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Originally Posted by Eldin

I hope GW2 is like Prophecies, and they don't break it. Because breaking a game twice is no fun.

I hate Factions, half the players don't own Prophecies (DAMN THEM!) or are stupid 9 year old Naruto wannabes.

I hope GW2 is like prophecies too, cept with a faster lvling rate *NOT as fast as factions*...and it's those Naruto wannabes' faults for not getting what I say is the best campaign and missing out on the original fun.

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Originally Posted by creelie

Screw you haters, I love hard mode. It makes the game feel new again. When I go into something in HM, I know it's going to be a challenge (yes, even with an SY paragon or a sabway trio). HM brought back that newbie thrill of triumphing over adversity that hooked me so hard on this game to begin with.

yes, Yes! YES!!!....sorry getting to into this post >.> <.< but it's the same reason why I like HM

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Originally Posted by Burning Blade

/signed for Hell Mode:

- Every monster is at least lvl30, Boss lvl40+
- Monster attack speed is 100% faster
- Monster movement speed is 100% faster
- Monster skill cast and recharge is 100% faster
- Every monster damage is 400% more, even Wands deal 100+ dmg
- Party limit is double: 4->8, 6->12, 8->16, 12->24
- Every monster has resurrection and enchant removal skills
- Armor buff limit is lifted
- All drops from Locked Chests are gold!
- Loot scaling is removed
- Rare drops are quadruple

This mode will keep people busy for quite a long time. Hehe

That, which I bolded, should be in Hard Mode!!!

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Originally Posted by prism2525

Hell mode?

All monsters in Tyria (Prophecies) are Lich clones.
All monsters in Cantha are Shiro clones.
All monsters in Elona are ABADDON clones.
All monsters in Tyria (EotN) are Great destroyers.

Players now have access to the bamph! skill.

Reminds me of Boss Mode in Diablo 2...good times...

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Originally Posted by Esan

Guild Wars is not about drops and making money. If those are the things that interest you most, you are playing the wrong game.

DEAR GOD! WE HAVE A WINNER!!1!!!!4!!!!1!!one!!!!!

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Because the addition of 3 titles requiring more than 1 million platinum and one title requiring 10000 ids and another requiring 10000 high end keys wasn't all about drops or money?

I wouldn't say GW is about titles either, just simply having fun, and many people, like myself, have fun doing titles, its our choice to want to go after whatever titles, we don't have to go after those titles that cost money...also, those titles can easily be very cheap, high end keys=high lucky+some lockpicks*yes still alot but cheaper then 600g per chest if ur lucky*, ids...farm golds/get from chests, its nearly free then. What other title are you talking about? Elite skills, yes that does need a lot of money to spend on caps, but you dont NEED to do that title, same with drunkard and sweet tooth, the 2 other money consuming titles.

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Originally Posted by sir hepe

2) The day when heroes were introduced.
I really loved to play with PUGs back at prophecies. When heroes came out, the game pretty much turned out to be a single player game. I remember when i first time played through Thunderhead Keep with a pug: I was very happy to have gotten through one of the hardest missions of the game. Now i can just bring sabway necros there and make it through with eyes closed and hands behind my back.
Also for example Sorrows Furnace was a very hard spot for me 2 years ago. I was there yesterday with a guildie who bought all the gw's 2 months back. He said it was a boring run-through. The game has gotten so much easier

To many, myself highly included, GW has always been a single-player game, since pre was only 2 person group and everything was easy, some people who actually start PLAYING in prophecies go a "no help from anyone" idea cept through 2 quests, heroes just replaced henchmen, not pugs.

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Originally Posted by Eldin

ANet should have...

1) Screw multiple (AND STANDALONE?!) campaigns. Do expansions.

2) No stupid PvE skills. They are unique but Ursan was a nono.

3) Heroes are a mixed blessing as they killed PuGging (which was fun, it was half the thrill of the good old days) but they are ALRIGHT.

4) No IMBA skills or new classes or campaigns that rush you to level 20 - appealing to noobies was a big mistake. They should have left GW long and arduous like Prophecies - it had a nice learning curve that resulted in the players developing more experience and respect for the game than later campaigns. To everybody who says that Prophecies was "too slow lololol", you are not an MMORPG gamer. Go play an FPS. Slow learning curves and a sense of gradual character development are KEY to an MMORPG.

comments on this:
#1)Full agree
#2)How about no ELITE PvE only, most of the pve skills are good, except for all 4 elites *ursan, volfen, raven, and lightbringer aura*
#3)I would have to agree and disagree with this *yes controversial*, Heroes are "alright" but I don't think they killed PUGs, in a way, Guilds, and in effect Alliances, killed PUGs a lot more then the heroes did. As I said above, Heroes basically changed Heroes around, I have seen many pugs wanting people above heroes.
#4)The only thing I disagree with this is the removal of new professions, although can still be good without the new professions, I like Ritualists, Assassins, and Paragons, so I cannot agree with this, but I wouldn't hate anet and stop playing if they did do that.

This was a fun Thread to read through, even though many would disagree as it seems. Thank you for the fun posts to comment on! Its been a while since I commented on this much!

and for the record, I started playing during Dragon Festival 06, but I didn't play factions till about 3 weeks after playing on me *now gone

* necro, and now I play on my new necro and sin...